tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32467890032696727.post4103554483986966682..comments2023-08-09T04:46:22.845-07:00Comments on EpicWorld Dinner Topics: Obama Birth Certificate, Social Security Number, a Fraud?Audrey/Kicks 'n' Giggles Nurseryhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10498643894656058365noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32467890032696727.post-51991913387634452372012-08-17T06:15:23.023-07:002012-08-17T06:15:23.023-07:00Obama has shown his birth certificate from Hawaii ...Obama has shown his birth certificate from Hawaii twice, the short form and the long form, and the officials in Hawaii of both political parties have repeatedly confirmed the facts on the birth certificates, and they are further confirmed by the Index Data file and by the birth notices sent to the newspapers by the DOH—and only the the DOH could–in 1961.<br /><br />The meaning of Natural Born Citizen refers to the PLACE of birth, not to the parents of a US-born citizen. The term comes from the common law, not from Vattel.<br /><br />“Natural born citizen. Persons who are born within the jurisdiction of a national government, i.e. in its territorial limits, or those born of citizens temporarily residing abroad.” — Black’s Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition<br /><br />“What is a natural born citizen? Clearly, someone born within the United States or one of its territories is a natural born citizen.” (Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on OCTOBER 5, 2004)–Senator Orrin G. Hatch (R-UT).<br /><br />“Under the longstanding English common-law principle of jus soli, persons born within the territory of the sovereign (other than children of enemy aliens or foreign diplomats) are citizens from birth. Thus, those persons born within the United States are “natural born citizens” and eligible to be President. Much less certain, however, is whether children born abroad of United States citizens are “natural born citizens” eligible to serve as President …”—- Edwin Meese, et al, THE HERITAGE GUIDE TO THE CONSTITUTION (2005) [Edwin Meese was Ronald Reagan’s attorney general, and the Heritage Foundation is a well-known Conservative organization.]<br /><br />And that is what five state courts and one federal court have ruled specifically on Obama. And one, Hollister vs McCain, ruled the same on John McCain.<br /><br />All seven courts ruled that the meaning of Natural Born Citizen was defined by the Wong Kim Ark case, which held that the meaning of Natural Born comes from the common law (hence not from Vattel), and that it refers to the place of birth, not to parents. And that is why when birthers and two-fers had a letter-writing campaign to the 600 or so members of the US Electoral College asking the members to change their votes to vote against Obama, not one elector changed her or his vote.<br /><br />For further research:<br /><br />ttp://tesibria.typepad.com/whats_your_evidence/scotus-natural-born-citizen-a-compendium.html<br /><br />And:<br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_born_citizen<br /><br />And:<br /><br />http://www.redstate.com/ironchapman/2012/05/24/english-common-law-and-american-law-a-digression/<br /><br />And:<br /><br />http://naturalborncitizenshipresearch.blogspot.com/<br /><br />And:<br /><br />http://www.obamabirthbook.com/http:/www.obamabirthbook.com/2012/05/early-use-of-the-term-natural-born-citizen/<br /><br />And, for those who think that this is only recent conclusions and hence revisionist, there is this from 1829:<br /><br />“Therefore every person born within the United States, its territories or districts, whether the parents are citizens or aliens, is a natural born citizen in the sense of the Constitution, and entitled to all the rights and privileges appertaining to that capacity.”—William Rawle, A VIEW OF THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. 2d ed. (1829)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32467890032696727.post-47911352375898533212012-08-15T22:55:04.141-07:002012-08-15T22:55:04.141-07:00Re the "very interesting Bit of Detective Wor...Re the "very interesting Bit of Detective Work"<br /><br />RE: “1. Back in 1961 people of color were called “Negroes.” So how can the Obama “birth certificate” state he is “African-American” when the term wasn’t even used at that time?”<br /><br />ANSWER: First it does not say “African American.” It says “African.” Only African. The explanation is simple. In Hawaii you were allowed to use any word you wanted to describe your race. There was no checklist, and no one stood over you saying what you had to enter. There are entries in Hawaii of people listing their race as “American.” So you were allowed to use any word you wanted.<br /><br />And what was the word that African exchange students commonly used to describe their race in the 1960s? Answer: African.<br /><br />Re: 2. “… Kenya did not even exist until 1963, two whole years after Obama’s birth, and 27 years after his father’s birth. How could Obama’s father have been born in a country that did not yet exist? Up and until Kenya was formed in 1963, it was known then as the “British East Africa Protectorate”.”<br /><br />Answer. You are out of date with that name. Kenya stopped being called the British East African Protectorate in 1920. In that year it was renamed. What was the name? THE KENYA COLONY. <br /><br />In short, it was called Kenya (Kenya short for "The Kenya Colony"), and it was in East Africa, so the entry Kenya, East Africa is correct.<br /><br />Re: “3. On the birth certificate released by the White House, the listed place of birth is “Kapi’olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital”. This cannot be, because the hospital(s) in question in 1961 were called “KauiKeolani Children’s Hospital” and “Kapi’olani Maternity Home”, respectively. ”<br /><br />Answer: You are referring to two other hospitals. But, Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital DID exist in 1961. <br /><br />How do we know. Well, on WND’s site there are birth certificates for the Nordkye Twins, born one day after Obama in the same hospital, and what is the name of the hospital on their birth certificates? Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32467890032696727.post-47777662039954252022012-08-15T22:36:43.239-07:002012-08-15T22:36:43.239-07:00Millions of people have errors in their Social Sec...Millions of people have errors in their Social Security numbers and millions have multiple social security numbers caused mainly by data entry errors:<br /><br />http://www.cnbc.com/id/38678753/How_Many_Social_Security_Numbers_Do_You_Have<br /><br />http://www.securityworldnews.com/2010/08/12/20-million-americans-have-multiple-social-security-numbers-associated-with-their-name/<br /><br />http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501465_162-20013733-501465.html<br /><br />The Connecticut SS number was caused by a data entry error. SS numbers were generated by the zip code of the applicant’s address. Obama’s address in Hawaii was in zip code 96814, and the zip code for Danbury, CT. is 06814.<br /><br />You might well ask why, if there is evidence that Obama has multiple SS numbers and that one of them came from Connecticut that NO committee in Congress wants to investigate? Why not?<br /><br />Because it is not illegal to have mistakes in your SS files, and lots of people do. And there is no evidence that this is other than a mistake, or a lot of mistakes. Republicans would be GLAD to hold a hearing to show that there was a crime involved with Obama's SS number. But they KNOW that there is no evidence.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com